Guest Post—Calling More Women to Speak at General Conference: A Response to the Office of the First Presidency

By Katie Rich

It was a typical evening in November 2019: I was calling my children to the table for dinner as my husband arrived home, carrying the mail. He kissed me and handed me a letter, his eyebrows raised. Immediately, my hands began shaking as I opened a letter from The Office of the First Presidency of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

I knew the letter would be in response to one I had sent to President Nelson expressing my desire for more women to speak in General Conference.

For the past three years, I have written one letter a year to the president of the Church on this topic. My letters have each been a bit different, but they express my hope that in our largest mixed-gender meetings, members can have the opportunity to hear from the experiences, teachings, and testimonies of our female leaders in numbers that reflect and encourage a true partnership between women and men in the Church. I believe that when members fail to see women speaking in every session of conference, they more readily fail to see women as spiritual leaders. While it is nice to hear our leaders proclaim that the Church needs women and their voices, it is insufficient without setting the example of actually listening to women’s voices in our largest meetings.

In 2017, I received a short response to my letter letting me know that my concerns had been noted. In 2018, I received no response. On that evening in 2019, however, I received a longer, more detailed letter from a secretary to the First Presidency. I have included his letter here with his name removed to protect his privacy. I will call him Brother Secretary.

My hands did not stop shaking as I read the letter from Brother Secretary. I was grateful to have received a response at all. Surely the Office of the First Presidency receives vast amounts of mail and responding to each letter is prohibitive. I was touched to receive word that my letter had been read, my topic discussed by the First Presidency, and that the First Presidency had asked Brother Secretary to respond.

I’m responding publicly to Brother Secretary’s letter because the reasons he gives as to why more women aren’t asked to speak at conference is of public interest. Brother Secretary does not refute any of my arguments about the need and value of hearing from more women in conference, but instead focuses on issues of policy and procedure that make increasing women’s representation difficult. His letter is a clear distillation of why, under current practices, the Brethren’s hands are tied. But it is also clear that the Brethren hold the keys (pun intended) to open the door to more women speaking.

Brother Secretary’s explanation for why more women are not invited to speak focuses on three key areas: First, with rare exception, speakers at General Conference are leaders who have “authority to function throughout the entire Church,” and significantly more men serve in these positions. Second, he says it is not “practical or advisable” for the nine female General Officers to speak at every conference because they are intended to serve on a part-time basis, some while maintaining full-time employment. Third, while some suggest that the wives of General Authorities or other sisters be invited to speak, they are “not called or authorized to address the general Church.” I will address each issue in turn.

The Leadership Gender Gap

There is a clear and significant gender gap between men and women who are called as General Authorities or Officers of the Church. There are approximately 116 men who may be called to speak in General Conference when drawing from the First Presidency, Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, Presidency of the Seventy, General Authority Seventies, Presiding Bishopric, Sunday School Presidency, and Young Men’s Presidency. Compare that to the nine women who comprise the Relief Society General Presidency, Young Women General Presidency, and Primary General Presidency, and it is clear why, as Brother Secretary states, the “simple mathematics” indeed “reveal the realities of the ratios involved.”

The gender gap is stark, but in 2018, President Nelson told the sisters, “We need you! We need your strength, your conversion, your conviction, your ability to lead, your wisdom, and your voices.” I believe this is true and that more women speaking in General Conference is an important way to address this need. Each of the female-led organizations has a board consisting of seven women from a variety of backgrounds across the United States and around the world—women of faith who dedicate time and talent to these organizations and have testimonies of the Savior. We could expand our practice to sustain these women as general leaders of the Church under the presidencies of their respective organizations. This alone would increase the number of women formally authorized to speak from nine to thirty. The gender gap in leadership would still be significant, but the Church would immediately be able to draw from more women with a greater diversity of experience, and particularly more women of color.

A Part-Time Calling

That the female General Officers of the Church are intended to serve on a part-time basis is an interesting conundrum. The women are called to lead multi-million member, world-wide organizations without being offered the resources to allow them to do so full-time. The male General Authorities cannot really be considered the women’s counterparts, as the men are called to serve full-time and receive financial support. Local leaders serve as part-time lay ministers without pay, but this is not the case for General Authorities. Because of the Church’s lack of financial transparency, I can’t say for sure if all of the 116 men authorized to speak in General Conference receive a financial stipend, but I can extrapolate that none of the women do. Female leaders who were supporting themselves financially before their call are expected to continue to do so as they serve.

This is not a question of whether the Church has the means to financially compensate the female general officers of the Church, it is a matter of whether the church values the women’s leadership enough to do so. It is past time to extend financial resources that would allow our female leaders to serve full-time, regardless of their marital status.

Beyond the issue of withholding financial support from our female leaders, who decides whether it is “practical or advisable” for the female leaders to speak at every conference? Are the women turning down requests to speak? It is one thing for the women themselves to declare that they are stretched too thin and desire not to speak more frequently, but it is quite another for the men alone to decide it is inadvisable for the women to speak more frequently based on their part-time status. We need women’s voices. If the women are willing, then they ought to speak.

(Un)authorized to Speak

Brother Secretary dismisses the suggestion that women who are not currently called as general officers of the Church be allowed to speak in conference because they, under current policy, are “not authorized to address the general Church.”

While I would welcome the opportunity to hear from the wives of General Authorities, I understand the concern that they are not called, and suspect some would prefer not to speak in that setting. More importantly, it would be unnecessarily limiting to increase the pool of available female speakers to only the wives of male leaders, as it would exclude women who are single or whose husbands are not General Authorities. There are certainly traditions in place dictating who speaks in General Conference, but the model for Stake Conference offers some extended possibilities. For Stake Conference, some of the speakers consist of stake, regional, or general leaders, while others are spouses of leaders or are simply called from the membership of the stake. This allows for a greater range of ages and experiences to be shared in Stake Conference. These non-leadership speakers become “authorized” to speak to the stake by being asked to do so. Following the Stake Conference model at the general level brings an incredible opportunity to hear from more women (and men) from diverse backgrounds teach doctrine and share testimonies that can touch the hearts of more people.

April 2020 Session and Beyond

I was interested to hear that in the April 2020 General Conference, instead of the traditional Saturday evening Priesthood Session for men, that session will be held for all members ages 11 and up. Perhaps women are already lined up to speak in this atypical session celebrating the 200th anniversary of the First Vision. Perhaps Brother Secretary was asked to respond to my letter but was instructed not to share details of certain changes already in store that include more women speaking. President Nelson is, after all, not afraid of change. But whether it happens in April 2020 or at a later conference, I hope that we may soon never go a session without hearing from women at the pulpit.

My letter focused on the absence of women at the pulpit, but it is not only cis-gendered, heterosexual women whose voices we are missing. To paraphrase the writer Glennon Doyle, we can measure the values held by a church not by seeing who they invite to sit in the pews, but in who they invite to lead them. If we truly value women, people of color, disabled individuals, and queer individuals, we need to invite them to lead and speak and teach us what they know of the goodness of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Like President Nelson, I believe in the power of revelation in the continuing restoration of the gospel. I believe that many great and important things are yet to be revealed. I believe that some of this will pertain to changes in the Church to move towards true partnership between all genders and a greater diversity in the leadership of the Church. I pray that policies and practices preventing women from speaking more frequently at General Conference will change so that we can all benefit from women’s leadership and testimonies of Jesus Christ.

 

Katie Rich is a former university writing instructor and a mom of four, based in Utah County. After several years at home with her kids, she is dipping her toes back into academia and enjoys researching the history of female ritual healings and the ways that polygamy shaped the Mormon Trail.

Katie Ludlow Rich

Katie Ludlow Rich is a writer and independent scholar focused on 19th and 20th-century Mormon women's history.

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13 Responses

  1. Heather says:

    Thank you so much for, first, writing every year to petition on our behalf; and second, for sharing with us what you learned; and third, for your thoughtful rebuttal. I am so hungry to hear and see more women at GC. I need it, my daughters need it, and all the boys and men need it. When we only show men, then male becomes the norm and we erase the experiences of others. Similarly, when we only show white people, we further marginalize people of color. It’s so hard for men to see this and have no idea the implications of our invisibility. Your letter insists that you be seen. Thank you.

  2. Rachel says:

    Thank you! Such excellent points!

  3. EAmerica says:

    Thank you! I share the same desire and I pray with you join for more revelations about diversity in leadership in our church.

  4. Megan says:

    Thank you for your courage and responses to his terrible excuses for excluding women. His response is incredibly insulting; that women are not authorized or called to address the church and so forth. Your rebuttals are perfect and I appreciate knowing there are women out there who share my views

  5. Dani Addante says:

    I love this! I hope they make these changes soon. It’s very much needed.

  6. Miriam says:

    Thank you so much, Katie, for your courage and willingness to keep pressing forward. I also question this “authority” mentality. Authority from whom? It seems that in order to speak from positions of the most good in this church, you must have worked your way up the hierarchy so that the church can “trust” you’ll speak the current culture and traditions of the day. The problem is, they keep changing. We confuse doctrines with policies and procedures, most often confusing one for the other, until it is changed again, and then it becomes revelation and this is the mantra pulled from the priestly vestments: “God changed his mind.” We don’t have to look far: polygamy, blood atonement, women giving blessings, Emma being ordained to the higher priesthood with Joseph, blacks and the priesthood, racism, policies regarding children of gay parents, policies regarding children of polygamous parents, the changes and wording of the temple ceremonies, the greater presence of visible women next to their priesthood leader husbands in the press. Do our heavenly parents change their minds that much, or is it something WE don’t understand? I am more inclined to the latter. Perhaps priesthood is more about relationship to God than we ever imagine. Joan of Arc, Harriet Tubman, Mary, the mother of Christ, Mary Magdalene, early Christian women leaders, sooo many others in history had a mission to fulfil with authority directly from God…no one or no institution stood between them and God, no middle person involved. To the degree we own our own relationship instead of outsourcing it to others, is the degree to which the power of God is manifested. Keep rising up to meet your destiny, my sisters! Whew. Ok…off my soap box now. 😉

  7. April says:

    Thank you for your persistence and transparency in publicizing the response you received! One of my peeves is that so many events where female leaders/board members speak are paid ticketed events. If you are able to clear the financial and geographical barriers to hear the words of women leaders the talks are not interpreted and translated into a full spectrum of the listeners native languages. General Conference is the only forum where talks are free and readily accessible in a wide scope of languages and mediums. I would be willing to forgo ever hearing from a regional seventy at a General Conference in favor of hearing from General Board Members that represent auxiliaries from the whole international church. I can’t be what I can’t see. If the church values women equally I should be able to count an equal number of men and women giving addresses in General Conference.

    • Megan says:

      April, I’ve had this same thought! Obviously we are starving for female spiritual leaders in that so many are willing to PAY to hear them.

  8. Anon says:

    Thank you so much for your efforts on behalf of women and everyone who is not represented in leadership. I want to see women and men from all ethnicities and backgrounds in leadership and in speaking. Perhaps conference needs to be televised from places all over the world, not just from Utah.

  9. Elisa says:

    Thank you for your courage and persistence in writing about this! I loved that your response (here) focused on the low-hanging fruit of *policy* changes that could result in more women speakers. How aggravating that everything he mentions is a policy barrier that the FP could easily remove!

    Of course, the larger and more aggravating thing for me is that if they simply ordained women – or disaggregated church leadership from priesthood office – this justification would also evaporate. So while I can appreciate that they considered and responded to your letter … the response was pretty shallow and lacking in self-awareness given that they and only they have the ability to rectify this in small or large ways.

    Still, I love that you do this and share. I have often considered writing letters—not really to convince anyone of anything but to at least publicly express my views so they know that there are active (for now …) members who hold such views—but I have no interest in getting hauled in to discuss with my bishop or stake president (not in the sense that I’m afraid of discipline but in the sense that I am frankly not interested in what they have to say because I can’t imagine they’ll have an argument that I’ve not already heard.). Has that ever happened to you?

  10. Ziff says:

    Outstanding post, Katie! Thank you for pushing this issue and for posting the response you received and your comments on it.

  11. Cat Heiby says:

    Kudos Sister Katie & you other Sisters as I like all I’ve read here but still the question hangs in the air here & begs to be answered, “what to do about?” I know we have no power to correct the problems you’ve all addressed here but we as women in The Church do have some powers the brothers don’t have, the power to create life and we have the power of member numbers as there are more of us than there are of them thus we have some leveraging power, don’t you think?

    I also think that the First Presidency and their wives could both be called to serve together, as well as The Twelve…both the Elders & their wives see & hear a lot of things, they both have amazing and long life Church experiences…so why shouldn’t the wives of be given the same opportunities to speak & be caed, set apart & sustained to have authority to speak for The Church as well? Why shouldn’t these wives of Apostles be given the same life-time roles as their Apostle husbands…roles in General RS, General Primary & General YW auxiliaries! What a waste it is to not use these worthy Sisters, life-time members with stallwart service & Church Activity, also it would increase our possibilities to have our voices heard…don’t you think?

    I look forward to reading here ago!

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